[sonnyblarney]

" elevators, convenience stores etc. Red light cameras are everywhere. I haven't seen a backlash."

Because those cameras are not used to track you, nor are you identified in those videos, nor is that data generally shared with anyone, and in most cases not the government.

In some areas, i.e. highways in LA, they do track license plates, and there is backlash and at least concern.

A 'timed security camera' is barely related to the idea of 'ubiquitous cameras that identify you and track your movements in a government DB and input into a social credit score' a system I might add citizens have no recourse to alter.

[kwhitefoot]

> Because those cameras are not used to track you, nor are you identified in those videos, nor is that data generally shared with anyone, and in most cases not the government.

Not yet.

[394549]

>>> " elevators, convenience stores etc. Red light cameras are everywhere. I haven't seen a backlash."

>> Because those cameras are not used to track you, nor are you identified in those videos, nor is that data generally shared with anyone, and in most cases not the government.

> Not yet.

That an ominous-sounding, yet totally empty and meaningless response. Most of those cameras are privately owned and operated, and would be incredibly difficult integrate into a centralized state surveillance system. We're mostly talking systems you can buy yourself at Costco:

https://www.costco.com/Night-Owl-8-Channel-5MP-Extreme-HD-DV...

Furthermore, a "backlash" in the case of cameras in "elevators, convenience stores etc." would have to be a backlash against private photography.

[kwhitefoot]

Looks like I was optimistic:

A California mall operator is sharing license plate tracking data with ICE (techcrunch.com), https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17502925