| > There is no way of quantifying the relative advantages and disadvantages between identity groups I agree with this idea when you talk about giving a very specific quantity, but I'd argue that gathering some data can tell you that there is some significant disadvantage for some group relative to another. But yes, we will never get to a point where every group is 100% exactly equal. I'm not asking for Communism. > in separating people into these identity groups, you deny my individuality Yes, and that definitely sucks. I don't like my individuality being denied either. It's definitely a significant drawback, and again, I'd welcome an alternative solution. > Yet you still assume the system is broken, and you still rob them of their individuality, still knowing nothing of their biases and nothing of their competence I don't seek to rob white men (like myself) of individuality or to ignore their/my biases or competence or achievements or anything. I've been programming since I was eight but when looking for scholarships, it was harder for me to find any than it was for friends of mine who were in minority groups but didn't have any experience. I still can notice an issue, see people taking steps to solve it, and then decide that while these steps seem quite morally wrong and put me personally at a disadvantage, doing nothing seems like being complicit in something that was created out of the same kind of moral wrongdoings, and isn't getting any better. I'm not a fan of fighting fire with fire, but I don't see a better alternative. Speaking of alternatives, I don't see you providing any... > Where is the evidence that people are not choosing to be founders of their free will? How can you be sure that the lack of founder diversity is evidence of a flaw in the system? http://fortune.com/2018/01/31/female-founders-venture-capita... https://www.fastcompany.com/40473294/one-reason-black-entrep... https://www.fastcompany.com/3060169/one-of-the-biggest-chall... https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesnonprofitcouncil/2018/02/... https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidteten/2014/04/29/why-are-v... You're right that quantifying these things gets messy, but when I look at these things, I see that the system is skewed in favor of white men. Just look at the number "76%" (the amount of white male Venture Capitalists) and the fact that racism and sexism are definitely present today, and then try to say that the system as it is is fair. If you want to argue that we'll never know what's the optimal amount of fair or that we'll never reach 100% exactly fair, then ok - I agree. If you want to argue that this worldview is bad, then ok - I agree. I also agree that it's bad to take away individuality, and to put people in boxes. But I don't see an alternative, and I do see a problem, and I don't see the solution to be much worse than the origins of the problem. |