[gant]

As always with great (/s) solutions proposed on HN, it's neither simple, nor are there any great incentives for providers or is there consumer demand. The average protonmail user doesn't care and/or know why using a credit card could be a problem.

[mirimir]

That I find hard to believe. Maybe the average Internet user is clueless about that. But the average ProtonMail user?

I was shocked when I saw that. It's a total disconnect. Why not Bitcoin? All decent VPN services accept Bitcoin. ScryptMail accepts Bitcoin. Even VFEmail does.

Even worse, if you create a ProtonMail account via Tor, you can't use even the free tier unless you provide card and number numbers. That's worse than even Facebook!

[deltateam]

> The average protonmail user doesn't care and/or know why using a credit card could be a problem.

Right, which is hilarious.

> As always with great (/s) solutions proposed on HN

Using an opportunity to patronize without understanding my perspective at all. Interesting... (cont.)

> it's neither simple, nor are there any great incentives for providers or is there consumer demand.

Despite not knowing or caring that I would agree with this.

Anyway! The landscape of cloud service providers always has providers that don't care about outsized consumer demand. Therefore this seems to be more of an educational issue as well as an assertiveness issue distinct from one related to the practicality of running a cloud service.

[tscs37]

I'm using protonmail via CC, don't see the problem tbh.

Security and privacy aren't binary options, it's a multi-dimensional spectrum where the optimal point depends on your threat model, budget and other factors. For me, it's not relevant if the police finds out if I use protonmail.