[HenryBemis]

Germans won't learn from their past. Watching "the lives of others" doesn't mean anything to them. "Security" forces always want to shadow/spy on anyong and anything "just in case". This is how Democracies fail. This is how humanity reverts to the age of "securitat".

German has one of the most elaborate spying-on-its-own-citizens dragnet around the world. This sting operations are just to bully/frighten anyone who dares not to bow their heads.

[dang]

This crosses into nationalistic flamewar. We don't want any of that here, and ban accounts that do it repeatedly, so please don't post like this again.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[skrause]

> German has one of the most elaborate spying-on-its-own-citizens dragnet around the world.

Citation needed. The amount of surveillance in Germany is much lower than e.g. the USA or UK.

[gant]

Last I checked DE-CIX is still in a never ending legal battle with the BND and courts seem to consistently rule in the favor of the BND.

[tedunangst]

The story that comes to mind for me: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/02/german-police-ca...

Although that's more targeted, less dragnet.

[solotronics]

they are definitely part of the Five Eyes and as culpable as any of the others

[mkl]

Five Eyes "is an intelligence alliance comprising Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes