[mattashii]

I disagree with your comparison to criminals. Gathering evidence for a case can be done at any place relevant to a case. It is sad to see that they confiscated materials owned by a witness, but within the bounds of "reason": they are a related party in said case.

Please note: I do still, from what I read here, find this excessive use of power. A normal warrant with a request for data could very well have been enough, but that's guessing what kind of evidence the police expected to find.

[onli]

The police took way more than they were allowed to by the warrant they got, a warrant that was already completely illegal. This is absolutely an overreach, the police, the staatsanwalt and the judge involved are standing outside the law.

[mirimir]

They obviously wanted data from Riseup, about some email address. Which I gather has no presence in Germany. So they went after Zwiebelfreunde.

That seems ridiculous. I mean, there's no way that Zwiebelfreunde would have any data about Riseup's email accounts. Even Riseup claims to retain nothing.

I suppose that Zwiebelfreunde might have handled contributions to Riseup from someone using the targeted email address. So there might be a money trail. But that's pretty iffy.

[dpwm]

Seems more like it's the police finding the "criminal" first and only then looking for the crime.

[anoncoward111]

Hi mattashii,

This is the police. We have reason to believe you've witnessed a crime somewhere at some time.

Please willingly give us all of your electronics right now. Yes we know you need them for work, for living, and that they cost thousands of USD.

No we cant tell you when we'll give them back.

Thanks Politie

[solarkraft]

It's not just "please gib", it's a full raid.