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Yes that's what I stated above. I've also stated that I haven't just read the news. We've talked to that team physically. Being language/platform neutral does not mean it is going to fulfill most use cases people would have for c bindings. Java tends to be "good enough" for a lot of use cases out of the box. It might help a bit with libraries like netty and memory management, but it's not going to work on real world math code which, as I stated, is our main use case.

That codegen isn't going to match what you need to do for real speed on cpus or gpus when writing vectorized math code.

Re: his last point. That's exactly what we talked to that team about. We don't feel those tools are going to work for real world use cases. We already do the codegen and auto bindings/mapping ourselves in addition to the memory management ourselves.