[roryisok]

> By the way, don't get me wrong, I am totally for cutting waste on the local level

Did you not just literally say that higher energy usage is itself a good thing?

Also on your point about production: My old tv had to be built, my old car also had to be built. It cost energy to replace them, but it does not equate to higher energy usage going forward.

I do agree with one thing you said though. We're swimming in unharnessed energy right now. If we can swap all the coal plants for fusion then maybe we can afford to waste energy on generating digital money, but right now bitcoin server farms mean more carbon in the atmosphere

[robertAngst]

Its important to stop being black and white here.

You both understand each others points.