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by rorykoehler 2906 days ago
What is the reasoning given for the ban on hot drinks?
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Mormons believe that, in the early days of the church, their church's first president and prophet, Joseph Smith, received a revelation from God called the "Word of Wisdom," which basically outlines the substances they should/should not eat or drink. "Hot drinks" [1] was the original wording in the revelation, which modern-day leaders have clarified means strictly "tea and coffee" [2]. This does not include hot chocolate or caffeinated beverages like soda or even energy drinks.

[1] https://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/89.9 [2] https://www.lds.org/topics/word-of-wisdom?lang=eng

I wonder if this is regional. The Mormons I know refuse to drink Cola, but are fine with Rooibos tea and other herbal teas.
As I understand it from the outside, it is now official Church doctrine that the particular prohibition that was universally understood to apply to coffee and tea but sometimes interpreted more broadly is limited (in the strict sense) to coffee and tea (the latter, I believe, in the strict sense of drinks made from Camellia sinensis), but that rather recent doctrinal clarification did not erase the fairly strong tradition that the prohibition in application should be treated much more broadly than it's express limits, even if the Church does not specifically dictate the precise bounds, and so the widespread (though not universal) practice of abstention from caffeine as a stimulant prohibited by the broader prohibition in which the specific prohibition now deemed to mean “coffee and tea” continues.

This isn't inherently regional, though variations in the practice probably have some loose correlation with geography.

Reason? We're talking about religion.
There are often historic reasons for rules in religions. Some come out of self-interest (there's only one God -- don't fall for other religions and their habits), some out ofsome form of ethics which derive out of cultural background of the time (don't kill, have only one wife) and practical issues (don't eat pig -- without having a fridge and when being in Messopotamian heat pig meat goes bad quite quickly, leading to health problems, which can be put on God's will due to limited medical understanding)

The question is: Do the reasons still apply today?

best sentence, i've ever read.
In the Doctrine & Covenants, an LDS religious text primarily authored or "revelated" by LDS leadership, there is a section commonly called the Word of Wisdom. The D&C is a companion book often but not always included in distributions of Books of Mormon.

D&C 89:9

9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.

https://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/89?lang=eng

(I know because I was raised LDS, and although I am atheist now, I consider myself culturally Mormon)

Actually, there are some studies that hot drinks ( especially tee ) can start a possible throat cancer. The hotness is kind of damaging the cells , which in time if not let to recover, will have a chance to turn into cancerous ones. [1]

[1] https://www.webmd.com/cancer/news/20180206/hot-tea-linked-to...

That's pretty misleading.

As the article says: drinking ordinary hot drinks is fine. Drinking scalding hot drinks is harmful.