[adynatos]

only if you subscribe to the notion that current social democracies are not socialist. "opposition to enabling people to live off the back of others"? strange, the left implements that everywhere already. and of course marx would be opposed, because his belief in LTV is an entirely different kind of wrong.

[vidarh]

Most current social democracies are not promoting UBI. Many social democratic parties are in fact opposed to it.

> "opposition to enabling people to live off the back of others"? strange, the left implements that everywhere already.

"The left" is not a single thing, but represented by dozens of ideologies that are wildly different.

[hn0]

"opposition to enabling people to live off the back of others" almost sounds like that other -ism...

[adynatos]

interventionism? communism? cronyism? statism? what do you mean?