[jbooth]

There were always a lot of women in education. Just think, not too long ago the most viable career opportunities for women were homemaker, typist and teacher. Apparently, though, women have taken up an even higher % of teaching positions relative to men in recent years.

I dunno if that statistic you're citing is that horribly flawed. Remember, the top end of the income scale is still operating on prior generation norms, or at the least has only very recently changed. It certainly wasn't operating that way in the 1980s. Given the income inequality, the averages probably still work out in favor of men.

[jdc]

There have not always been a lot of women (relative to the amount of men) in tenured positions.

[jbooth]

You mean at university? Ok, probably true, but that likely says more about the limited role of women in "real professions" in prior generations than it does about anything else, no?

Not to get too irate about it but I can't stand when people whine about the success of women or claim men have the deck stacked against them somehow. If you're going to extol the virtues of being a man, the least you can do is act like one.

[pbhjpbhj]

>Not to get too irate about it but I can't stand when people whine about [...]. If you're going to extol the virtues of being a man, the least you can do is act like one.

I hope you see the irony in complaining about perceived sexism towards females by being sexist towards men.

[jbooth]

I didn't think I was A) Complaining about sexism towards women, or B) Being sexist towards men. I mean, I'm a man. I know that because I was born in America and had access to a good education, I'm in great shape, good enough to control my own destiny. Whining about someone else having it easier seems like a strategy for losers. I suppose, if you're offended, you could say my tone was sexist. But I was really going more for derisive (of an idea, not a person).

[pbhjpbhj]

Aside from anything else, saying "act like a man" is sexist.

It's assuming that men should bear burdens that others shouldn't have to. That they should not complain when faced with hardship (whilst others can) that they should take harm and not object because that is just their position in the order of things. It's an extension of men being expendable - http://denisdutton.com/baumeister.htm (most here have seen that before I'm sure).

FWIW I, at least in part, agree with that sexist position that I've just espoused. But I recognise it as sexist.

[jbooth]

Well, I agree with you as far as the attitude, I'd think most men would, and was surprised that on a "build yourself up" board like HN, everybody fainted and was shocked by my sexism. Heh.

Anyways -- on that point -- the different social levers available to men and women VASTLY dwarf any differences in aggregate earning or typical education level. Men have all of those things you mentioned and that enables us to do certain things and act a certain way, women have a very different set of tools.

And those that complain about the situation? Not going to get very far in life.