[symesc]

Gruber had some interesting speculation on last week's episode of The Talk Show podcast.

I'm paraphrasing but he was essentially wondering aloud if, due to AirPlay capabilities, iPads and iPhones would be able to deliver content to the Apple TV . . . and then become a remote control for the content on the TV.

This could be video like the MLB app delivers, or other apps that would lend themselves to being shown on one (big) screen, and controlled on another (small) screen. Think: games.

All of this sounds very "Apple" to me, in that it's completely consistent with how they think about integrated solutions.

And if true, I'll buy an Apple TV for the first time.

[loire280]

A game with the action shown on the TV and the interface shown on an iPad would be awesome. Imagine the incredible UI ideas that would be possible if you had the entire screen as your canvas.

Reminds me of the Optimus Tactus keyboard concept: http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus-tactus/

[stcredzero]

A game with the action shown on the TV and the interface shown on an iPad would be awesome.

I can imagine this becoming the preferred way of many to play Farmville.

[chopsueyar]

Maybe re-release "You Don't Know Jack!" series with updated questions...or live interactive gameshows.

[Timothee]

> other apps that would lend themselves to being shown on one (big) screen, and controlled on another (small) screen. Think: games.

:) That's something I wanted to do way before AirPlay, by using the iOS device as a web-server of some sort and display the big screen part of the games through a web browser (on laptop, game console...). In particular, one idea was for games like Pictionary or Taboo: the small device is a controller as well as the private part of the game (with the hints).

However, I never implemented anything due to my lack of experience with iOS and the fact that it seemed that the game console web browsers were fairly limited... contact me if anyone would like to do something around that though, even if just for fun!

[wallflower]

There is already SDK support for real-time video overlays (since iOS 3.2)

> Consider a movie player view to be an opaque structure. You can add your own custom subviews to layer content on top of the movie but you must never modify any of its existing subviews.

In addition to layering content on top of a movie, you can provide custom background content by adding subviews to the view in the backgroundView property.

http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/mediapl...

[BigZaphod]

That is my speculation as well. I posted about it here a bit ago (whoa.. 26 days.. time flies!): http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1657709

[napierzaza]

Wow Gruber has a great theory. He thinks that the announced feature of Airplay will appear on the new AppleTV. Answer: ...yeah.

Inter-device compatibility will be complicated by having a new platform. But there will likely be a similarity between the iPad and the Apple TV. The AppleTV will be 1280x720 and the iPad is 1024x768.

At any rate, the touching will be through other IOS devices or possibly after-market controllers. But it's true, in general it won't make so much sense in terms of the binary on your iPad compared to the Apple TV.

The ecosystem is rich, but I'm not sure sure about about universal applications that can go from iPad to iPhone to AppleTV. For games you're going to have a lot of graphics slogging around for each version, and the app's size will suffer. You may also want to charge each separately.