[zaidf]

What’s their end product to date besides speculation?

[echelon]

I'm thrilled to participate in building something that won't be government controlled. It's the same excitement I had when the web wasn't Facebook and Google.

[bredren]

It is in heavy use in black markets and for illegal enterprise such as ransom. So the product is successful transactions outside many laws.

[mrhappyunhappy]

The same can be said of cash. Can we agree that this has been played to death by now?

[zaidf]

Cash can be used at tens of thousands of locations for non-shady uses. Same can’t be said of crypto.

[rootsudo]

Same can be said for the Internet, cars, cell phones, hell a paper and pen.