[Francute]

This is old (2013). However, i think it's really ironic to talk trash about OOP while thinking in Java and pointing Alan Kay in the same post. Alan Kay being the father of OOP always made clear Java wasn't the OOPL he had in mind.

[discreteevent]

It's a bit confused alright. His first two quotes are from people who designed OO languages. (Joe Armstrong later realised that Erlang may be the only fully object oriented language, one he learned that java is not oop https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5205976 )

[Francute]

Nice link!. I should add that exist a correlation between objects and lambda calculus for functional programming. So, they are different perspectives of the same idea. And you have to take care of both perspectives.

[signa11]

wasn't it gosling who, when asked what he would do differently on rewriting java, famously remarked that he would leave classes out ?