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by mtw 2929 days ago
The are subsidies everywhere. The US government subsidized the oil industry for dozens of years, same for agricultural sector and major sectors of the economy (See Great Depression). Currently, electrical vehicles are also receive subsidies in most states.

I'm not a big believer in IP (go Free software!). I find though if we have to strictly follow IP, then the US would have to pay for the use of paper and gunpowder, and many other inventions originating in China.

What I hate so much about that it assumes it's all due to Chinese secretly stealing American IP. Nope - just go to China. People are working extremely hard and industrious. There is also 1.4 billion Chinese. And while there are good American products, there are also great German-made robots and tech, Korean chips, French nuclear reactors that Chinese would rather have than American products. Focus on building better products, work hard, and it will work out.
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defertoreptar 2929 days ago
This goes beyond subsidies. We're talking about espionage, theft, forced technology transfers, and mandatory joint ventures if you want to set up shop in China.
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fspeech 2928 days ago
"if you want to set up shop in China"

That is a funny line of logic that gets thrown around a lot, considering that the advocates' stated preference is for industries to move out of China. Isn't wide dissemination "about espionage, theft, forced technology transfers, and mandatory joint ventures" enough a deterrence for companies to stop going into China? Apparently not.

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defertoreptar 2928 days ago
> Isn't wide dissemination "about espionage, theft, forced technology transfers, and mandatory joint ventures" enough a deterrence for companies to stop going into China? Apparently not.

You're right, and at the same time, that's not the point. The USA has been granting China favorable deals, which has resulted in trade deficits. The expectation is that the China will at least follow and enforce international trade law. The USA decided that the Chinese government is not doing this and is instead actively subverting it at the expense of US companies. This is a response to that.

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