[erjjones]

> At what point do we collectively decide, you know what, this is ridiculous.

I would say things are at that point. So move to a different city. Success != The Valley

[stevehawk]

It's all anecdotal but recruiters and lot of developers seem to frown on me for not being interested in moving to SV. I'd rather be unemployed in the midwest (which i am) than employed in the SV. Why give up my 1.5 acres and 4500sq ft home for the hell i see advertised on here so often.

[peterwwillis]

I would say we need to redefine the idea of a city and how we live in them.