[noir_lord]

> If you've ever said "this isn't my job" then you will have only an adversarial relationship.

I say that all the time to other managers and occasionally to my direct manager.

I'm the only software engineer on staff and we have a pisspoor IT provider, if it's windows I don't touch it because if I do I'll 'own' it and I'm busy enough.

[spenczar5]

That sounds pretty adversarial, you may have demonstrated GP’s argument.

[noir_lord]

Learning to say no when it's not in your interests isn't adversarial, as an old boss put it pithily "If you don't respect your time no one else will".

I was hired to write software, we pay a third party for desktop IT, if I then start doing IT technician tasks I'd be the most overpaid IT technician in the country and we'd still be paying for support.