[buvanshak]

Capitalism will try to exploit every human weakness.

If we have a population of people who are not aware of the intricacies involved in self driving, and the current technical state of the art, it is pretty clear there would be entities who would capitalize on it, by claiming to have implemented self driving.

Now, the way they does is saying stuff that actually does not make that claim, but in effect projects it. So right now, we have Tesla people saying "We will start shipping full self driving features by august". And without no clear understanding of what comprises of "full self driving features", the stocks rise. Seriously, it is used everywhere. When a toilet cleaner that claims to kill 99.99% of bacteria, they are doing the same. They project a claim that is very hard to nullify. But that does not prevent it from boosting the sales.

Car companies are particularly at fault because what they are doing can be dangerous to the users.

[dalbasal]

I'm going on a tangent (and I'm not trying to troll, I am just as "guilty" as you myself. Worse, in all likelihood)...

I really think that I'm seeing a lot more of "capitalism wants to" or, "globalists are going to" or the good old "the government believes." Abstract concepts personified, deified and vilainised in the way we talk.

Im not against putting things into wider contexts but I do think that this sort of language is leading us astray, more this last year or two then the few before it.

Capitalism, corporatism, neoliberalism and market forces are at play here, so is regulation, centralised decision making.... But, these are abstractions and I don't think they tell us more then the specific does. Let's not just blame whatever abstractions we are used to blaming.

How about (1) people bullshit, especially when they're trying to sell you stuff (2) there may be an uncanny valley type of problem somewhere between cruise control and full autonomy, a level of automation that's not good. It's no longer a driving feature and it's not yet an automated driver (3) laws, driving conventions and common sense will take some time to adapt. (4) we need to make sure we don't let the well understood "people bullshit, especially when they're trying to sell you stuff", especially when their competitors are bullshitting problem lead us into car accidents.

[buvanshak]

To be clear, I am not villainous capitalism. It is just an observation. One such as, "predators will single out and target the weak prey".

I was trying to make it clear that people involved here are often helpless due to the pressures inherent in capitalism. I think when you start accepting investments, then you are even more helpless. But one the other hand, it helps one to justify any "evil" by delegating the blame to the investors, and how "we" have to protect "their" interests, so "we" are forced to do this bad thing.

The investors are often completely oblivious to the fact, and they too are blameless. So where does the blame really lie?

[sillyquiet]

Substitute 'The Devil' for 'Capitalism' in these kinds of posts and you have a sermon for sunday school.

[egjerlow]

The Devil will try to exploit every human weakness.

If we have a population of people who are not aware of the intricacies involved in self driving, and the current technical state of the art, it is pretty clear there would be entities who would devilize on it, by claiming to have implemented self driving.

Now, the way they does is saying stuff that actually does not make that claim, but in effect projects it. So right now, we have Tesla people saying "We will start shipping full self driving features by august". And without no clear understanding of what comprises of "full self driving features", the stocks rise. Seriously, it is used everywhere. When a toilet cleaner that claims to kill 99.99% of bacteria, they are doing the same. They project a claim that is very hard to nullify. But that does not prevent it from boosting the sales.

Car companies are particularly at fault because what they are doing can be dangerous to the users.

.. Doesn't sound much like any sermon I've ever heard..

[sillyquiet]

Less the actual content and more the metaphysical dread and reductionary anthropomorphized conceptualization of fundamental economical principles

[buvanshak]

Devil is much better. It just wants us to sin. And it won't do nothing if we don't sin. Capitalism is much worse. It asks us to pay. It ask us to work. And if you don't yield, you are pretty much doomed, right here on earth. That is not even going into the fact the it poisons the waters and skies and ruin it for all living things....