[rootusrootus]

I'd like Apple to give it a shot and find out. I was happy enough lugging around my 2011 MBP even though it was much thicker than my current one (a 2013) which is itself much thicker than the newer ones.

Make a thin MacBook, sure. Then make a proper MacBook pro and make it about the hardware and not beauty. I believe there is actually a market for it.

[gargravarr]

At this stage, I'm convinced Apple have forgotten how to make Pro computers.

[wilsonnb2]

You can buy an iMac Pro with an 18 core Xeon, 128GB ECC RAM, 4TB SSD, and Vega 64 graphics. If that's not a pro computer, then I'm not sure what is.

[ropeadopepope]

What kind of pro computer doesn't come with top notch support?

"Apple REFUSED to fix our iMac pro" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-NU7yOSElE

"The Apple Store Genius Bar broke my $5000 iMac pro" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG_NRcy5mxU

[wilsonnb2]

It's unwise to extrapolate that the iMac Pro doesn't come with top notch support from a single instance of bad support.

I side with Apple in the Linux Tech Tips issue, though. They're under no obligation to fix it after he broke it by intentionally violating the terms and conditions.

[ropeadopepope]

Those aren't even close to the only two issues reported. They're just the most visible.

[blacksmith_tb]

Nice specs, but you can't upgrade the SSDs, RAM is possible but breaks warranty, can't upgrade the soldered GPU, and it's unclear if the CPU is actually upgrade-able. So I would call it disappointing, as a 'Professional' product.

[rbanffy]

It's a professional tool. When the GPU is too slow or I need more than than 18 cores or 128 GB of RAM, I'll just buy a new one. I'm pretty sure that won't happen in less than 5 years.

As for storage, I'd be crazy not to keep all important files on a backed-up RAID array. It's a professional tool, after all.

(and I keep my music on an off-site-backed-up RAID array)

[extra88]

Yes, I just bought one for someone at work, got a good deal at Microcenter but I’m still annoyed that I couldn’t get one with less than 1 TB and pay less; the internal drive is not where our data goes.

[rbanffy]

Unless you have a really nice RAID array, internal still beats external. I like to back up hourly (a timeboxed rsync) to an external disk (and use Time Machine too on Macs).