[tptacek]

I mean, yes, there is also a rational debate to be had between the mainstream liberal position and the far left, too. My point is just that you didn't need to evoke a border wall to make those arguments.

The "ELI5" answer to the border wall debate is "it's a policy meant to paralyze discussion while placating anti-immigration activists; it doesn't have a real public policy purpose".

[piketty_fan]

sure, the wall is racist grandstanding, no argument from me there. I'm just point out that the other guy, who's condescendingly dismissing anyone to his left including mainstream economists as being driven solely by feelings, is maybe not 100% right that we should start culling the poor