| >So you are adding more epicycles. Not really? I don't conceive of consciousness experience as something that can be meaningfully separated from the perception of that consciousness. For a consciousness, perception is experience. However, I can imagine a perceiving system which does not have any consciousness, and thus experiences nothing. > Will it not change your behavior when you'll notice that you are confidently calling very similar colors by very different names and cannot say why are you doing that? In this hypothetical, the "partial p-zombie" cannot distinguish them consciously, so they would not do that. This is the closest thing I can conceive of to what you described. >I am pretty sure I can't change whether the rock is conscious or not by the power of my imagination. But the rock exists within your imagination, you have total power over it? |
I can imagine a system which is presumably too simple to have any conscious experiences. But the only thing that really matters is the lack of first person experience of such a system. I can't imagine being such system, and that is what matters, if we are talking about consciousness and not about some words which are used as a substitute for a real conscious experiences.
> In this hypothetical, the "partial p-zombie" cannot distinguish them consciously, so they would not do that.
Let's suppose, for simplicity, that I don't experience color differences at all. All I experience is brightness. But my brain works exactly the same as yours. I see two grey cups and hear myself saying "Do you prefer red or green?" Am I not conscious of this discrepancy too? Am I also not conscious of the lack of any clues when I'm asked to select one of the things which looks exactly the same to me? Sorry, sounds like complete bullshit to me. I will prefer physical consciousness over such brain-damaged metaphysical one.
BTW, are you sure you are experiencing colors? You will not notice if your point of view is true.
> But the rock exists within your imagination, you have total power over it?
Sure, I can image a rock which has supernatural soul and conscious experiences. Why all the p-zombie fuss, when it clearly shows that dualism is true? That's sarcasm of course. But why p-zombie argument is any better? You can't even conceive what is really matters in p-zombie - the lack of first person experience. You can only conceive some images like "dark inside" or a textual description of that.