[saagarjha]

Like you said, there are very few companies who have done nothing wrong. But there certainly are companies who are better than others, and it's fine to praise them for that, just as it's fine to call them out for their mistakes.

[seba_dos1]

Then go support Librem 5, Tinkerphones/OpenPhoenux, Pyra and other similar projects. Apple doesn't differ much from others like Google - at best it's just the friendliest of your enemies.

[Dravidian]

You're correct. But I feel that the innate californification of Apple along with systemetic PR showing Apple to be saviour of privacy is stopping privacy enthusiasts from putting Apple into same rigor as we do for Google, Facebook.

[saagarjha]

> the innate californification of Apple

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[Dravidian]

You're correct. But in my opinion the innate californification of Apple & systemetic PR helping itself to project as saviour of privacy has prevented the privacy enthusiasts from putting Apple through same rigor as we do for Google, Facebook.