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by mkovji 2938 days ago
Should i have better phrased it by replacing politics with government.

Isn't government all about asking one yes or no question and collecting a response from every citizen and going forward with the majority answer.

Isn't scenarios where we go ahead with minority decisions where the issues arise?

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> Isn't government all about asking one yes or no question and collecting a response from every citizen and going forward with the majority answer.

No, it's not. In our modern representative democracies, government is about asking as many people as possible for their input and then going forward with what seems wisest to you. Modern societies face problems that are much too complicated for the simple majority to be a good indicator of the best course of action.

We vote for our politicians because we agree with their set of values, and by electing them give them the responsibility of taking decisions for us, based on those values. In effect, we ask them to do the hard work of thinking through problems thoroughly enough to arrive at a good solution.

(Of course, that doesn't mean that what we think becomes unimportant, or that the "average citizen" is unable to form valid opinions on social matters. And one of the defining factors of a good politician is and always will be that he listens to the people. But his responsibility is to take the decisions that he believes are best for the people, not necessarily the ones the people want.)

Brexit is a prime example for what happens when politicians shirk their responsibilities and hand the decision-making back to an uninformed majority. (This is an almost literal quote from a friend of mine who voted Leave!)

>> No, it's not. In our modern representative democracies, government is about asking as many people as possible for their input and then going forward with what seems wisest to you. Modern societies face problems that are much too complicated for the simple majority to be a good indicator of the best course of action.

It is just this mindset that is ruining the whole world. One persons so called wise choice which goes around creating discomfort for majority is what creates imbalance and intolerance across community and ruins every ones peaceful life.

>> We vote for our politicians because we agree with their set of values, and by electing them give them the responsibility of taking decisions for us, based on those values. In effect, we ask them to do the hard work of thinking through problems thoroughly enough to arrive at a good solution.

No politician will ever be skilled enough to make a decision. A politician is just a servant. I don't let my servant decide what to cook or what to do with their time.

I decide what menu i want and they just prepare the logistics and production.

Today i tell them to pick what majority wants and tomo i tell them to make what rest of them wants so that everyone is taken care. Each individual cannot or need not think and execute on how to clear the trash in their apartment. That's where a politician comes in i tell him daily we will keep trash outside home n u get some people to come and collect and dispose it using this technique and he just serves that task.

It should be the common people the actual customers who are making the decision not the service providers like politicians.

Or we can have multiple governments running simultaneously and i can just switch to the government of my choice and live by that rule. Something like changing from Verizon to Tmobile.

Probably don’t even need AI to implement a brute force direct democracy: just make a website where anyone can make issues to vote over, and a voting mechanism.

But is that a good idea?

i think that will give some solid base and we can live like that for a decade and then learn any minus points in that and again solve them using the same system one by one and improvize slowly.

But the current crap in crap out system has no hope.

Is the current system a good idea?