[tnolet]

Sorry for not being clear. There is nothing wrong with K8s features. It solves a specific problem really well. However, most people & companies I interact with don't have that problem. Or that problem is just a very marginal piece of their full set of problems. Running K8s, maintaining it and making your apps work with it is pretty big undertaking. Only go there if the upside is so great it blows any alternative away.

I guess the popular term is "cargo culting". Or maybe Heroku is not hip anymore although it probably is the best advice for many companies.

[meddlepal]

I strongly disagree. I've built a couple in house PaaS type systems in the past with various degrees of success on more classical tech like straight up EC2 using a variety of Terraform/Ansible/CloudFormation/Scripting but the dev experience has always been painful compared to Kubernetes.

Developers really love working with Kubernetes. It doesn't take a lot to get started and if you're not doing anything too crazy it is a huge productivity boon IMO.

Where things get hairy is persistence, but that's the case regardless of Kubernetes or not.

[auslander]

>Terraform/Ansible/CloudFormation/Script

This number of tools speaks for itself. Yeah, you would be better off with out of the box stuff due to lack of skills.

[meddlepal]

Ah yes, you're right. I am sure you have a much better understanding of the requirements each of these build outs sitting behind your keyboard over there.

[rvanmil]

Heroku is still amazing indeed. Our team recently moved all Node.js based systems from AWS to Heroku and it has given us a tremendous productivity gain and reduction in complexity. Before we made that decision we spent about 8 months experimenting with K8s, only to discover it actually made things way more complex for us and reducing productivity without any clear benefits.