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by ihsw2 2939 days ago
AMD has reported that in actuality this chip should rarely hit 250W, essentially only if overclocked. As with the Ryzen 2 lineup, overclocking can actually hurt performance.

But you are correct that some of the more budget-oriented (and I use that term loosely) TR4 boards will struggle with power delivery. Worst case, you will shorten the lifespan of your motherboard and increase the risk of capacitor failure (eg: shorting, popping, etc).

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I'm somewhat curious about what kind of cooling system Intel was using the other day with their 28 cores at 5 GHz demo/stunt. Some people isolated a frame of the streamed video where it shows the (insulated?) pipes that exit from the case and go behind the desk.

Edit: grammar

Water cooling with a chiller - water was close to freezing temperature.

Most popular way is to use arctic fish aquarium chiller

Edit: someone snapped a photo of it: https://i.imgur.com/dRINhkW.jpg and people identified it as http://www.hailea.com/e-hailea/product1/HC-1000A.htm

Anandtech also has an article on that.

It's fine for showing off of far the chip can go, but nothing someone would have under the desk.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12907/we-got-a-sneak-peak-on-...

In addition to the overwhelmingly slap-dash appearance, its power draw was reportedly through the roof (north of 750W). With that chip, a fully-loaded workstation's power draw would exceed the wattage of most North American wall outlets.

Suffice to say, Intel's 5GHz 28-core chip is nowhere near production-ready and their demo is more than likely a heavily overclocked top-binned Xeon chip. In other words, Intel's new offerings are looking like less than stellar vaporware.

Threadripper 1 still beats the pants off of Intel's HEDT offerings in terms of price (Intels' costs quickly exceed the $5K mark), Threadripper 2 twists knife so much that its a gaping wound in Intel's side. The Epyc 2 lineup will similarly affect Intel's enterprise/data-center offerings.

I was pretty sure it was mostly for show and not a feasible product but nonetheless I was guessing around 500W. Without counting the chiller running under the desk.
People have been saying some form of subambient cooling, phase change or similar.