[wafflebear]

Really? Name one NSA cipher that is better than an equivalent academic-designed cipher? DES? SHA2?

[evgen]

You get original DES, I get DES with the NSA-designed S-boxes. Want to make a bet about whose messages get cracked first?

[yarrel]

By the NSA?

[evgen]

By anyone, but if adversary was NSA at the time of adoption of their suggested S-boxes then I still win.