[adrianratnapala]

Then other other language lawyers will come around and tell you why you should use {0} instead of memset (e.g. because for some combinations of type and architecture the zero value isn't full of zero bytes).

This example also shows how "the semantics" is a fiddly concept. The reason the standard allows leaving bytes unzeroed is because they are not "semantically" important. But they actually do matter.

The problem with the mentality that it's always the programmer fault for not following "the rules" is they you eventually get to the point where the rules allow for no good solutions at all.

[robotresearcher]

I didn't say it was always the programmers' fault. But I believe the programmer should express their intent as clearly as possible. And memset( (void*)buf, 0, buflen ) says fill-a-contiguous-array-of-unsigned-chars-of-value-zero, which is semantically different from initializing an array of structs that may have padding, and better matches the programmers' intent. It doesn't matter if the zero value is all 0 bits or not - the important thing is that the whole contiguous memory region is zeroed.

I believe C99 says chars and unsigned chars have no padding.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/13929462/can-the-unsigne...

[robotresearcher]

Another, better, response to your argument. Initializing an array of structs with = {0} does NOT tell the compiler that zeroing the entire contiguous chunk of memory matters - only that each struct should be zeroed. While memset( (void*)buf, 0, len) does tell the compiler that the entire contiguous memory chunk must be zeroed, which is what is intended.

Language lawyers need not apply.