[realusername]

I can't speak of Germany but in France engagement rings are very rare and more something of the upper class, out of all the weddings I've done, none of them did that.

[baud147258]

I wouldn't say that engagement rings are upper class, but it's true it's only in certain groups. In my peer group, it's common, for example my brother bought one for his fiancée and my mom has one. But in all case they were gifted at the time of the engagement, not at the wedding.