[blunte]

It's quite difficult to measure a potential reality that could be outside accepted reality using the tools of accepted reality.

That is to say, there are so many cases of thoughts seeming to affect reality that are difficult or impossible to explain with existing science. Those who do not accept such possibilities naturally do not see proof of them, and those who do accept those possibilities may see them or even perhaps imagine that they see them when there may be a simpler explanation.

I find it ironic that some rabidly religious people cannot accept any explanation for events other than what their book(s) tells them, while at the same time strictly "scientific" people likewise behave the same, but using different books. Neither group sees their mirror image in the other...

[TheDong]

> so many cases of thoughts seeming to affect reality that are difficult or impossible to explain with existing science

Rather, science has explained many of these cases already.

Humans are prone to confirmation biases, are really bad at probability, and have quite faulty memories.

Those facts combined result in phenomenon that exist outside science because any time science sheds light upon them, it turns out that it is a construct of the human brain unrelated to reality.

> strictly "scientific" people likewise behave the same, but using different books

Scientific people do not hold on to books with no evidence and accept challenge. Science is more about the methodology and reasoning than about the current conclusions. If a scientist is ignoring something counter to their books, it's because the books have provided more scientific evidence than the challenging opinion.

There's a massive difference here, and simplifying science down to "it's like religion, but the bible is other scientist's books" is neither helpful nor accurate.

[blunte]

I did not simplify it as you state, and I certainly did not make a blanket statement.

But regarding science and possibilities, how often in history had science said somethingwas not possible or real, and by rules of science at that time they were correct, but later with more understanding science began to allow the observed thing to be "real".

Science, its definitions and rules, are ever changing and advancing. Thus it is fair to say that at any given time we are dumber than we will be in the future.