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by mykull 2950 days ago
Let's go out on a limb here and consider that people aren't overly self critical, and the problem is actually that they can't do anything about their failure to meet high self expectations, because they are in effect trapped in a prescribed lifestyle where they have no power to make meaningful change.

Let's go out on a limb and consider that while being less critical of yourself addresses the symptoms of disappointment, it doesn't address the causes of inutility of smart and capable people.

Let's consider that the quote "it is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society" is actually pretty insightful.

We are, as a culture and a species, failing in myriad ways. In my humble opinion, we should feel bad and we should change as well. We're just powerless to do much because of the strength of institutions that exist out of ritual and not out of rationality.

We're left to hate ourselves, because nature and ignorant humans with money and power do not care what we think, and have an answer for everything we do.

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So what do we do? How can people force the world to change to utilize talented people? Meritocracy works decently in software, but as a too to manage other humans or other groups of humans, is there any good evidence that it will work?

Furthermore, is there evidence that mankind is meant to be well? I've heard native Americans talk about how nobody went hungry and nobody was broke before the concepts that colonialism brought to reality, but isn't that part of the cost of a modern world?

It's horrific that human history reveals that periods of conflict are usually actually pretty helpful for advancing technology (ww2, middle east, Internet to some extent), but there's no obvious alternative.

It seems that humans are invested in not going collectively backwards, technologically and this the possibilities created by new things becomes a sort of ew cursive expectation that we are trying to meet.

Folks a hair older than I am remember a time when man had not gone to space, much less landed on the moon. Now we are within several decades of having permanent structures on the moon that human beings will live on. It took us tens of thousands of years, but now we are here.

Humans being have to go forward until there's a better alternative.

Personally, I think we'll all be better off when AI surpasses us. If we behave, maybe it will fix our planet and leave us somewhere safe while it explores the cosmos.

I don't hate myself, either. I used to, but I had to stop when I put the bottle down. I'm not a psychologist, but self loathing is very often linked to some sort of addiction or disruptive emotional condition, just by my experience with other addicts and other miscreants like myself.

Approach, friend.
If you have time, would you care to expand?
Sorry for not having some deep meaning, it just came to me when I read:

I don't hate myself, either. I used to, but I had to stop when I put the bottle down. I'm not a psychologist, but self loathing is very often linked to some sort of addiction or disruptive emotional condition, just by my experience with other addicts and other miscreants like myself.

I can relate to that - not exactly "putting down the bottle" but with the self loathing, being a miscreant and at the same time letting go of the self loathing. Not suddenly, but bit by bit in different scenarios of life, as I hopefully become a more mature person.

The phrase "Approach, friend" is from a song lyric that stuck with me.

A soldier calls out into the night:

- Halt! Who goes there?!

- ... Death

- Approach, friend.

http://www.lyricsfreak.com/m/marillion/forgotten+sons_200889...

"it is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society"

nature and ignorant humans with money and power do not care what we think, and have an answer for everything we do.

It is interesting to me that you identify an error mode in one sentence, and then demonstrate in yourself a few lines later. It seems you've abrogated your responsibility for your own well being, and moreover intellectually believe that this is the correct position.

The best argument against what you're saying is that if you accept it, then you accept futility of action. Since most such discussions are leading toward positive change, this makes the argument self-defeating. Another argument against is the simple truth that people can find happiness in the most unpleasant of circumstances, and unhappiness in the most pleasant. Society will never be perfect, therefore it really is within our power to be at peace.

Ironically, it is from a position of inner peace that the greatest and most lasting and most beneficial societal change can spring.