[deltron3030]

Objectives are projections of a desired state at a certain moment in time imo. Goals are the actual state at that moment in time. Stop consuming sugar wouldn't be a goal, but goal oriented objective behavior (because you can control/measure you sugar intake, materializing your objective this way). A goal would be a certain amount of lost weight.

[karimdag]

The example I gave wasn’t a good one. I suggest something else: think of goals as a “module”, it has a function that servers the main objective.

This idea of modules is also found in Dr Duckworth’s book: Grit.

[deltron3030]

The way I see it, goals are the actual thing while objectives are diffuse imaginations of something, or the zoomed out perspective. To get a clear picture of something, you have to zoom in from the diffuse one first. You define your goals after zooming in, because then it's clear what's reachable.

A hunter might have the objective to hunt down prey to satisfy his hunger. But at the time he's leaving for hunting he doesn't know what's exactly out there, he will define goals when he has gained a clear picture of the actual environment. That's when he will decide what to hunt and how.

He could decide to abandon his home and become a nomad, following the prey and have it always visible, and satisfy his main objective (hunting to eat) this way. Is this what you mean with module?

[karimdag]

> The way I see it, goals are the actual thing while objectives are diffuse imaginations of something, or the zoomed out perspective. To get a clear picture of something, you have to zoom in from the diffuse one first. You define your goals after zooming in, because then it's clear what's reachable.

This is exactly what I meant !