[manfredo]

> Tell that to this US law the whole world has to comply to called DMCA.

If a site has no US presence and blocks all users in the US, what negative repercussion can violating the DMCA incur? Maybe their domain can be siezed, but that can be avoided by not having a domain hosted in the US. The US could block all traffic to the site, but that should be moot if the site has no US users.

[isostatic]

With the DMCA, if a US judge determines that a foreign company has broken the law, and someone associated with the company ever visits the US, that person is at a high risk of being orange-jump-suited in a barbaric punishment system.

It's been this way for nearly 20 years.

[manfredo]

This is outside the scope of my previous comment. If someone visits the US then they have a physical presence in the US.

I'm still failing to see how the original claim, that everyone has to abide by the DMCA, is true. This seems like claiming that everyone has to abide by Thailand's Lese Majeste laws (laws criminalizing insults to the monarchy). Yes people may face repercussion if they have an economic or physical presence in the country. But if they don't, then theres nothing Thailand can do to enforce this law .*

* not without cooperation with other countries at least. Some nearby countries are known to enforce Thailand's Lese Majeste laws abroad and extradite people. But in most countries, this isn't the case.

[number6]

You want to get all political about this? What about extraordinary rendition? And the pirate bay guys?

[manfredo]

The "Pirate Bay guys" were persecuted in Sweden, nothing I can find on the coverage of their arrests and trials mention American copyright law. Extradition treaties are voluntarily made by the countries that establish them.

Again, if a country doesn't want to abide by the DMCA then they don't have to. Extradition treaties and the Pirate Bay do not disprove this claim.

[number6]

Ok you are right about the pirate bay guys. But you could argue that the laws are heavily influenced by the US.

But extraordinary retention is just the fancy word for CIA abduction. So no treaties are in place here.

[isostatic]

But that's the same with the EU rules - nothing to fear if you don't go to the EU.