[chrisseaton]

> No, for us, the value proposition is just not there

You don’t see the value because you don’t know what’s possible. For example you asked if you ‘swipe’ a ‘contactless’ card so you must not know what other countries’ cards can do. (You don’t swipe it - that’s the whole point - it’s without contact - contactless.)

> Hmmm...and they did this out of the goodness of their hearts?

No they benefitted but so did we - not everything is a zero sum game and sometimes everyone can work together for society make progress but someone needs to nudge.

[pgeorgi]

> You don’t swipe it

You still have to hit the NFC coil by a few millimeters, it's a pretty comparable motion and effort.

And it takes longer than it takes an Aldi cashier to give out change.

[mpweiher]

Exactly, that's what I meant.