[dangerface]

"you would need to agree to the ToS to get that update"

If you have to agree to their ToS before you can use the device, it should be before you purchase.

Google intentionally waited until they had your cash to say GOTCHA! We require an additional payment of your soul. Now its biting them in the ass, it is entirely fair.

[y4mi]

That is entirely false.

If you buy from the Google store, you'd have to agree before buying (you can't buy without an account).

If you don't, then the seller had to notify you before your purchase. Google had little influence there.

And your argument doesn't work if you're taking about third party devices, which the parent was.

Android itself is open source. OEMs aren't forced to bundle the Google services with it. This can't be blamed on Google either.

They're probably still violating gdpr, and I'm looking forward to the first real cases. These are just silly

[lukeschlather]

Google has a checklist of things that each OEM has to do in order to distribute the Google Apps, which are not open source. If the OEMs are in compliance with Google's terms for OEM distributors, I would say that it is an issue with Google's terms.

I am curious, I have a Samsung device and I note that I can't uninstall Gmail. Is that Google's choice or Samsung's choice?

[y4mi]

honestly, i think the best choice would be to 'accept', and use the google services, or deny -- and just not get any google apps installed.

this would give privacy oriented people the option to simply opt out of anything google and still uphold the pretty good stock experience.

but this is imo still not google's task. OEMs choose to just flash google's services and apps by default right into their OS. that should only be done after the user said 'yes, i want to tell google everything i do'

[RugnirViking]

If denying would mean that I am denied service of their apps, then that would be a violation of gdpr. That is the point of the regulation.