[acqq]

There's big difference: those who care actually develop Perl (like, they maintain the C kernel of the language etc.), and those that don't just use Perl and just make noise and are clueless outsiders looking for attention.

Edit: I don't count as outsiders or anything anybody who is a Perl contributor and has his own opinion! Not everybody is supposed to have same opinion, and even when people do cooperate it's a part of the process! My personal belief is still that Perl 5 aged more gracefully than a lot of projects!

[chromatic]

That's... quite a claim. I'm hardly the only contributor to Perl 5 who thinks that the obsession over backwards compatibility with an unknowable and unmeasureable DarkPAN is unhealthy.

[acqq]

Oh, sorry! I wanted to refer only to the guy who wrote the schmpan text who apparently wasn't contributor but was making noise!

I immediately withdraw my claim and beg for forgiveness from everybody who does contribute but have the opposite opinion!

[jleader]

nperez (author of the darkpan-schmarkpan post) may not be a contributor to p5p (Perl core language developers' mailing list), but a quick glance at http://search.cpan.org/~nperez/ shows that he's contributed some interesting code to the POE and Moose codebases. I think Rafael was a bit harsh in his "Perl Developers Actively Care..." post when he seemingly dismissed the opinions of anyone who doesn't contribute sufficiently good patches to p5p.