[greglindahl]

It's only Model S with AP2 that had that problem: the original S and the AP1 S both shipped with working automatic wipers on day 1.

But yes, that's the kind of thing you should expect from Tesla... just like you should expect that the missing-but-common feature of backup-lines on the backup camera to be retroactively added 3 years after the initial cars shipped. Yin and yang.

[houssc]

Yea he has the AP2, thanks I forgot what it was called. Sadly that is the kind of thing I'd expect and it completely understandably takes away from the value of their products. Everyone has their own equation for what makes sense and I'm sure some are fine with these issues too. Good thing we have a free market with many options :-).

[greglindahl]

When I first got my S, if you left the windshield wipers on the automatic setting, and it had rained in the recent past, when you unlocked the car and opened the door, the wipers would activate once and throw water on you.

Mercedes, which uses the same wiper system, had the same bug.

The difference is that Mercedes never fixed those cars. Tesla did.

So yes, there are issues. But it's not a straight win for either Tesla or non-Tesla. It's just different.

[houssc]

Yea I mentioned that as well in my prior post, that tesla does patch and like I said everyone has a different equation to decide what they want.