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by frekw
5744 days ago
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I don't understand your 3G argument. I use 3G to connect to the Internet from my desktop for various reasons, and I've used plenty of SC apps via that connection. Isn't this really a problem solved by the HTML5 offline application cache? |
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At this point, the browser has no choice but to fallback to an HTML only state (or perhaps an HTML+CSS state). The times when this happens is out of our control, and it will never be in our control.
How you do that, is your choice. Other people can continue along the route of "they are not my audience" either until their audience drops to zero, or someone slaps a discrimination lawsuit on them.
Flaky 3G connections are just one example of factors outside a web developer's control. But there are many others.
Consider this: Opera mini is essentially a proxied browser. A server takes a static snapshot of a page and sends it on to Opera mini. No-one in their right mind would need such a locked down browser on their mobile devices. Especially not on an iPhone running Mobile Safari. And yet we have this: http://www.funkyspacemonkey.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/O... -- Opera Mini being the top Free App on the Apple iPhone Appstore in _20_ countries simultaneously.
Consider how SproutCore deals with 'offline storage' in a browser that doesn't currently support HTML5's local storage. I'd bet they follow dojo and use a series of fallbacks, and one out of that series is using a 1x1 pixel Flash app that has the ability to write to the local filesystem. Piece of cake, right?
Yet when we have something like this: http://www.adobe.com/support/security/advisories/apsa10-03.h... Big corporate organisations, and potentially big governmental organisations do stupid stuff like this: http://www.webstandards.org/2006/04/03/script-blockers-break... (Their proxies drop JavaScript that does any dealings with Flash).
So with good development best practice, the loading of the one monolithic JavaScript file gets silently aborted, and you get a page of just HTML and CSS.
We do not control the web environment. And that's what makes me weary of conceptions like SproutCore - their inability to adapt to the web environment as it is today.
(Offline application caching is no use when the cache is empty - that's a normal state of affairs when you first enter an application in one specific browser).