[NDizzle]

North of $12,000 and you'll own a car. The no-car-movement is great for cities and people with lots of patience.

You'll never, ever take Land Cruisers away from me.

[CiPHPerCoder]

> The no-car-movement is great for cities and people with lots of patience.

I don't own car (nor have any intention of doing so) due to being too blind to drive safely, but not blind enough for any sort of government assistance.

(I'm not legally prevented from driving, I'm being considerate of the safety of others.)

[saudioger]

>The no-car-movement is great for cities and people with lots of patience.

Unfortunately Uber is kind of undermining public transportation though. In my city transit ridership is down, which ultimately impacts funding.

I can sit outside any sort of venue/party/bar and watch Ubers pull up by the dozen. 5 years ago most of those people would have been walking to public transit because cabs were more realistically priced (for the medallion owners at least, the drivers often got shafted there too). Uber trips often cost less than the price of simply stepping foot inside a taxi.

I've talked to my neighbors (6 college students sharing a house), and they've literally never taken public transit since living in the city, and we're ~5 minutes from a major bus station and ~10 minutes from a subway station. I was flabbergasted.

Of course, traffic is worse than ever (this is attributable to multiple factors not limited to Uber/Lyft).

[krisdol]

I can't stand what ubers and lyft do to congestion. The drivers have no incentive to stop in marked areas or even pull over to the side when picking up/dropping off. Most of our busier two-lane streets are now 1-lane congested behemoths thanks to ride "sharing". It does get me on the bike more though. There aren't enough cops to enforce or care about the problem, and unlike some European countries, the culture in the US around citizens reporting traffic violations is nearly non-existent, so everyone gets away with it.

[Driverswanted]

Amen. Much of hackernews fails to understand that some people love driving.

Car culture is huge thing. I just bought an Audi S3, and derive pleasure whenever I hit the throttle.

[nealmueller]

Hi, Neal here, I authored this analysis. I totally get you. I love driving. M3 is the ultimate driving machine (tm). But sometimes I prefer to do other things. Selling my car let's me drive when I want to and ride when I want to. I've found my correct ratio is 1% driving, 99% other things. Each person will have their own ratio.

[MasterPI]

Exaclty. I just made a similar comment down below saying that some people choose a car with their heart not their head.