[franciscop]

This kind of things are rarely problems for locals* , so I can see how they might be a low priority for the government/police. Instead, solving poverty issues+better education seems to be a better solution (for me and for the cities) than trying to make it into a police state.

Example: one of the safest places in Spain I've seen are libraries in Universities. People leave their laptops and go to the toilet/for lunch and nothing happens. The unsafest places I'd say are beaches, clubs and main statios.

* which happens all around the world. I never thought I'd be scammed like this, being from Spain, but I was scammed in Vietnam!

[dsfyu404ed]

This. People generally prefer to make an honest buck but when honest bucks are few and far between skimming your cut off the people who pass through using whatever means necessary becomes very attractive.

You even see this dynamic in in college towns where the college town and associated services are generally ok but all the surrounding communities run speed traps like their going out of style in order to skim a few bucks off of all the people passing through as a result of the college and the commerce it generates.

A healthy local economy generally prevents too many people from trying to make a dishonest buck.

[ljm]

At least for Barcelona the theft is incredibly organised, and with the assumption that a passing tourist will just pay to replace their phone or use their insurance, the theft itself might be far more lucrative than whatever honest buck is available.

It is generally only the tourists that are targeted, to the point where some people will tell you to yell at the assailant in Spanish to guilt them into giving your stuff back to show you're not one of the people they should be stealing from.

To show how bizarre this can be, on a purely anecdotal level, I was jumped in Barcelona more than once, and even with the opportunity to take my wallet and cash they ignored it and went only for the phone. Physical violence is avoided, more often than not.

Barcelona in particular has had an anti-tourism mentality for quite some time (and not without good reason) so a lot of this petty crime appears to exist as a result of that. This is just from experience of living there a few years, though.

Surveillance and police presence won't really solve this because of how sneaky the theft can be (e.g. knifing your pocket or rucksack while you sleep on the metro and sliding your phone out), the best deterrent is your own awareness. Good luck with that if you're out there to party.

Of course, the same can be said for any country enjoying its influx of wealthy tourists. Barcelona isn't unique in this.

[jerkstate]

in my experience, there's a tradeoff curve with "honesty" of income on one axis and time/effort spent per money on the other axis, and different people have different curves (at different times in their lives.)

[cascom]

Just ask my local police department - no point in pissing off your neighbors and voters issuing tickets when you can stick it to people passing through...