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by misterbowfinger 2961 days ago
> How do you pay people if they live in different countries? What about contracts? — The things people ask about most often all have straightforward answers.

Really? I just read a comment from the CEO of HashiCorp who has a very different take:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17022563

Unless all remote employees of Ghost are just contractors...

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Yes they are exactly that.

Same with Automattic, Zapier, Buffer - and most of the other big remote companies. In fact, we all use the same set of contracts. They tend to get passed around founders.

All 3 of those other companies are USA based, so for anyone in the US they do standard employment contracts - and anyone outside = self employed contractor on a retainer. We're based in Singapore and don't have any staff in Singapore, so effectively everyone is a remote self-employed contractor.

Our retainer contract looks a lot like an employment contract, practically speaking, and builds in all the same sorts of provisions as you would expect. We also cover expenses, where applicable, for team members to get independent legal and accounting advice to make sure everything is set up correctly for them.

Mr HashiCorp has gone way too far down the rabbit hole, by the sounds of it. It makes sense to set up a subsidiary when you have a larger group of staff in a single location. For instance, Automattic have a subsid in Ireland because they acquired a company there and as a result have a lot of staff based there. But otherwise it doesn't make sense to set up a full blown subsidiary in every country when you're a tiny startup just trying to contract a couple of people.

Thanks for the insight!

> In fact, we all use the same set of contracts. They tend to get passed around founders.

Care to share? ;)

seconded! Early days still for our startup but we are also interested in pursuing the remote working route and we are incorporated in Singapore.
>>> Mr HashiCorp has gone way too far down the rabbit hole, by the sounds of it. It makes sense to set up a subsidiary when you have a larger group of staff in a single location.

Or when you want to do things like give them stock or healthcare or pensions