I'm glad someone made this comment. It blows me away when people think their set of values is the only "right" way to think and anyone else who has a different set of values is obviously damaged or doing it unwillingly.
There is nothing extraordinary or even unusual in this. It's basic tribalism: my tribe is made from virtuous people who are also smart and beautiful, the enemy tribe, on the other hand, consists of deformed degenerates with the room temperature IQ.
Did not you imply that smart people cannot possibly be in the other tribe so there has to be some reason why your tribe members are not quitting the enemy tribe cause?
I never used anything close to "cannot possibly". I said I could not understand. I used the words "why" and "I wonder". It's very clear. It's not ambiguous. But you seem very attached to your tribe theory, so you want my past comment to fit your present view.
And it's a very conflicting view of the word too. Do you see us as enemies as well ?
In which case, you win this argument. I don't want my tribe to fight yours.
Sorry, then, if you didn't want to say that then I don't understand why you posted your message at all. It then literally amounts to "I cannot understand other people motivation" and all the references to intellect and understanding consequences and shiny toys are irrelevant.
As for myself being tribal - it's very hard to observe tribalism in oneself so, while I am not seeing it, I can very well be.
Well, let's say suddenly you learn a community of elite thinkers eat babies and think it's good way to control population.
You'd be baffled, wouldn't you ?
It's not a matter of morality, of good or bad, or right or wrong.
I understand the difference exists. It just feels so alien to me I can't get to form the mental model that helps me understand what thinking lead to this behavior.
Also, read the other comments, we answered your points already.
you learn a community of elite thinkers eat babies
Maybe I'm not reading this correctly, but you're saying that if anyone holds an opinion different than yours your reaction is the same as if they thought "eating babies" was OK?
Things aren't that black and white. People can hold opinions different than your and you can withhold judgement.
They just have a different opinion on eating babies. People can hold opinions different than your and you can withhold judgement.
See again, you add morality in the equation, talking about black and white. But morality is arbitrary. You can draw the line anywhere, one inch to left or the right, and so on, indefinitely.
So that's not what I said.
What I said was "I can't understand".
Not "it should not be" or "it's impossible" or "they are bad people".
Apparently, you have difficulty to understand that somebody can't understand.