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by DINKDINK 2957 days ago
You'd think that killing people would be covered by "Do no evil"
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In 2015 Alphabet changed their motto to "do the right thing". If you interpret "right" as "correct", then "doing the right thing" can mean 'correctly' bombing civilians.
You'd think that people would know that concepts like "good" and "evil" are complex and somewhat subjective. There are plenty of times when you can kill someone and not be considered "evil".

At the very least, most people agree that killing in self defense is not evil.

It's not directly killing people. That's like saying helping improve GPS satellites kills people because weapons systems use GPS and would benefit from increased accuracy.
Just like the "do no harm" oath taken by doctors means "If you gotta kill like twenty people to save a hundred, get on with it."
Why assuming Jus ad bellum or the right to defend your self is valid - there are some forms of killing that are not "evil"
"Don't be evil."
Careful. I somehow got flagged for stating as much last time this debate came up.
If project maven worked as planned, wouldn't the USG kill fewer people?
Ironically, no. Drones enabled the US to kill 4,000 people in Pakistan--people who arguably would not have been killed without that tech.
Those people would almost certainly been targeted by manned jets. The US still sends out tons of manned combat missions (as many as 20 sorties a day from a single carrier according to this article: https://news.usni.org/2018/03/19/u-s-evolving-middle-east-op...)
> Those people would almost certainly been targeted by manned jets.

I doubt it, considering the cost of manned jets and their limited time-on-target, political fallout, risk to pilots, etc. Drones are stealthy, silent, cheap to operate, have long time on target, and have both surveillance and attack capabilities. Drones are the key enabler for this completely unprecedented type of pervasive, constant warfare.

People who want to make drones "more efficient" at this job are totally missing the point. Making them even more efficient just means they'll be even more widely deployed, which makes the whole problem even worse. The wider deployment completely dwarfs any savings from "less collateral damage". We need to stop drone warfare, not make it better. Return to the rule of law.

Your assuming that other means would not have been used eg dumb bombs from b52's. Or SF teams lazing targets for PGM's
Which is a very plausible assumption, considering dropping traditional bombs is much more inconvenient for the killers. With drone attacks, the cost and political fallout is minimal. And with more meal available, the appetite grows - the killers will use the new capabilities to do more killing.
Are seat belts and airbags and other safety measures worth developing, when 30,000 people die per year from cars?