[tptacek]

I'm fine listening to the arguments of people who believe we need to restructure all of commercial agriculture. That's a coherent perspective.

What I'm not fine with are people pretending that a bee-pocalypse threatens commercial agriculture as it exists today as a stalking horse argument. I'm not saying that's what you were doing.

[elago]

Well I hope we meet again on a thread that's a more appropriate platform to spread my lunatic gardener beliefs.

I enjoyed the discussion and learned something new about the honey bee.