[mattmanser]

I've seen 'really, really bad' code. This ain't it.

Yeas, it's made some rookie mistakes. Yes, there's a load of things they shouldn't be trusting on postback (silly things like not checking the owner of an object on 'delete' commands).

That's not bad code, that's a bad implementation. That's not knowing what to trust and what not trust cause they've never been screwed up the ass by it yet.

But bad code? No.

The implementations are problems, they need this shit pointed out to them. That is all.

Steve and Patio11 are doing some serious damage to a good project for no apparent reason apart from self promotion. I want to call them nasty names, I really, really do.

[Mod_daniel]

I'm worried that this is going to be one of those group think exercises where people are simply going to key off of their opinions without even looking at the code. Or, worse, reiterate their claims on other forums. I don't think, at least in Patio11's case, that this is gross self-promotion, I think its simply arrogance.

[steveklabnik]

Call me nasty names if you'd like, but I don't see how "please help this project, it really needs it" is self promotion.