[astro_robot]

Google is very clearly all about the money as well. It's just that they understand there is no money that will come from the "customer". Instead, it will all come from other corporations that are seeking to leverage the relationship Google has established with you. I think it is healthy to remember that companies aren't some do good no matter what it costs them. At the end of the day, all companies are trying to make money the best way possible. Frankly, I am glad that there is both Apple and Google. I think they both do well while making money.

[Aloha]

No, it very clearly comes from the customer with Google.

However, with Google, the End User is almost never the customer.

[rock_hard]

The argument that the user isn’t the customer needs to die please!

It’s a overly simplified statement and misleads any serious conversation on the related topics!

Thank you

[CamperBob2]

Do you pay Google? No? Then you’re not their customer. Yes? Then you are. It isn’t a value judgement.

[dx034]

Still, saying you're not the customer but the product is wrong. If you watch TV, you're also not the product. I'd probably classify TV audience as customers of the stations, even if the money is made with advertisement. But viewers are certainly not products.

Google isn't different from a TV station. You as a user are a customer and pay Google by consuming the ads they present you in various products.

[rock_hard]

To extend that argument: NPR listeners for example are also not the product just because they don't pay NPR (but instead its funded by taxes).

[dragonwriter]

> NPR listeners for example are also not the product just because they don't pay NPR (but instead its funded by taxes).

NPR is mostly not funded (even indirectly) by taxes, and has both actual targeted advertising on their own and platform (for digital properties), and “underwriting spots” from sponsors on its broadcasts, that while regulated more than traditional advertising and are, and have been acknowledged by NPR to be, a form of advertising by the sponsors driven by the same factors and concerns that drive traditional advertising.

[chii]

To be pedantic, even if you paid google, they wouldn't be treating you differently. Prime example is Google apps for your domain customers...