[lugg]

> What I'm waiting for, though, is for a big player to do a modern, clean "Kubernetes first" cloud offering.

As someone who is feeling burned over picking swarm over k8s, I'm not super into the idea of trusting a 3rd party to do k8s first.

Anything anyone implements well will be ported to gke in due time, no?

[n00tz]

The good news is Docker EE 2.0 brings Kubernetes to you. However, I'm not sure if it's operating split-brain or if they made it such that you can pick your control surface.