[derefr]

The TV ecosystem solved this by splitting the screen apart from the set-top/streaming box (and then put them together again in the form of smart TVs, but most people I know just disable the internal smarts and use their own stick anyway.)

Why not just specify a "dashboard control tablet" form-factor, and have an empty spot there, expecting the user to supply their own (and replace it every year or two, as people tend to do with other mobile devices)? It'd be this decade's tape/CD player module.

[chaostheory]

This has already been solved well by both Google and Apple.

https://www.android.com/auto/

https://www.apple.com/ios/carplay/

This is yet another example of a car company unable to realize that they just don't make good car infotainment dashboards. This will just lead to further fragmentation of the Android ecosystem.

[partiallypro]

Maybe a dumb question, but do companies often support -both- AndroidAuto and AppleCar play? Or do they do lock-ins and partnerships...because if they lock you in, it really defeats the purpose.

[gsnedders]

There are very few who support one but not both, BMW most prominently (CarPlay only).

[assblaster]

Toyota is testing out Carplay but not Android auto in one of their new cars, citing lack of security.

Which sounds more like they got a better deal from Apple.

[balls187]

my 2016 VW Golf supports Carplay, AndroidAuto and a 3rd solution (like Miracast but for autos).

[microtonal]

Our Skoda Fabia does both.

[chaostheory]

Yes Chevys do

[nathantotten]

Have you used carplay? It is awful. Takes 30 seconds to start. Crashes frequently, unresponsive often.

I don’t necessarily blame apple for this, but they clearly didn’t put strict enough requirements on the hardware that runs CarPlay.

[majormajor]

My experience is the same. For day to day, bluetooth phone<->car connection beats Carplay or Android Auto. Wireless autoconnect is key, should've been in the V1 of those standards.

I never bother with Carplay for less than a 1 hour trip.

[ancorevard]

CarPlay connects wirelessly through both Bluetooth and WiFi. I’m enjoying it a lot. Never need to pull my phone out my pocket.

[nathantotten]

That’s awesome. I didn’t know wireless was supported. Clearly some car manufacturers have done better jobs with the integration/hardware than others.

[robin_reala]

It needs WiFi for a wireless connection, Bluetooth doesn’t have enough bandwidth.

[microtonal]

We use CarPlay all the time, it works almost instantaneously after plugging the phone and it is always responsive. The primary beef that we have with it is that you cannot use Google Maps. Though Apple Maps is definitely many times better than the built-in navigation system.

As you say, it is probably a problem with some hardware.

[nathantotten]

It seems based on other comments that it varies wildly by manufacturer. Several others in here mentioned issues with the same vehicle I have. Really unfortunate, it’s clearly better than the built in software. Maybe there is hope that Volvo will issue an update that improves stability.

[msh]

Eh, it’s instant on in my car (a Citroen) but I suspect they start booting the electronics when I unlock the car. In the 3 months I have had the car it have never crashed but twice CarPlay refused to find the phone and required a reboot of the phone.

[xirdstl]

Aside from the startup time, I don’t have any of those problems. I love CarPlay and would not consider buying a car without it

[chaostheory]

You need a better, stronger lightning cable for your car. Apple OEM cables can’t take the wear and tear in a car. As long as my lightning cable is good, so is CarPlay. You can also go the wireless route as an alternative

[nathantotten]

Interesting. I am using Apple branded cables. Any specific recommendations on what works well?