[hellepardo]

> why not just get a job at Google so you can do that?

Don't want to move to California? Can't pass the interview? Salary too low in the offer? There could be lots of reasons.

I agree with your other points, but what I'm saying is not exactly that. What I'm saying is that TensorFlow is not a community-led project in the way that other open-source projects are. It's Google-led, and if you don't like it, you can go away or fork it (...and if you fork it, it's unlikely you'll get many users given the Google marketing machine).

(The same complaints have been and are being regularly made against Red Hat, and also Fedora, given that Fedora is basically "experimental" Red Hat.)

[FLUX-YOU]

Convince Google it's better as a community-led project. Maybe they will have some convincing counter-points about why it's better the way that it is that we're not considering. They've likely already been through this debate.

Consider if Tensorflow were half as useful as it is today if it was community-led and it was led by a shitty community.

[tetromino_]

You don't necessarily have to move to California - see https://www.google.com/about/locations/