I don't think this has anything to do with the incel movement. It was a risky post to begin with. This tweet is making a lot of assumptions. Flagging as no good discussion can come from this post on HN.
> Flagging as no good discussion can come from this
..in your opinion. Why do you feel the need to silence that discussion?
I get that HN is a forum with its own rules and as such there is no automatic "right" to free speech, but is this really what flagging is for?
Flagging should be used for spam and other content which simply doesn't belong on a tech-related forum. Not for just removing stuff that you personally don't want to discuss.
Why don't you just ignore it and upvote the stuff you do want to participate in?
EDIT: this comment now appears as 'folded' when I refresh the page. Does this mean that it too has been flagged? That's pretty funny.
On HN flagging is used not just for spam, but often for content you don't agree with; especially if you strongly don't agree with it. In this case you think this content shouldn't be on HN and click "flag". If enough people do that, the post disappears. There's nothing you can do about it.
> Please don't complain that a submission is inappropriate. If a story is spam or off-topic, flag it. Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead. If you flag something, please don't also comment that you did.
Flagging is supposed to be used for spam or off-topic content. People who flag stuff they don't agree with are not following the guidelines of this community.
'whalesalad' is apparently breaking the guidelines twice, first by flagging something simply because they don't agree with the discussion that might ensue, and secondly by commenting to say that they flagged.
This is theory. What I describe is how this works in practice: commenters on HN use flag as a tool to silence opposing views. It happens every day, hard to overlook it.
If people flag civil, substantive comments just because they don't like them, that's an abuse of flagging, and we eventually take away their flagging rights.
Yeah, it doesn't really offer any good advice, just offers up questionable conclusions. Personally, I think it's an indictment of online dating in general as encouraging our shallowest selves to go front and center, but we seem to not want to give it up yet.
I don't think a service tailored at dating is ever going to be decent at what it's ostensibly doing. Instead what's going to work is someone doing a local community app right.
Yup. It’s completely shallow and unnatural. The only hope of it working is to shift attractiveness matching to AI, elimimate profile pics seen by humans and start real conversations with people whom you’d likely be attracted to, but don’t get to judge before meeting them. Eliminate the overwhelming messages deluge that people can’t deal with because they wrote / took pics that too many people like. This way, realistic potential couples are persuaded to talk to each other rather than just hounding the few attractive people.
Personally, I have found that you best make mental connections over digital media, while you best make physical connections in person. So services need to be tailored towards those mental connections. I have found Quora and other discussion platforms to be unbelievably good for finding people that I really wish lived in Atlanta.
But a discussion platform almost certainly cannot also be a dating service. I wish someone would give me a few hundred thousand to explore why.
The timing of the deletion is what seems suspicious. On the other hand, it could be related to Christian Rudder's somewhat disastrous keynote at CHI (the largest academic human-computer interaction conference) last week:
..in your opinion. Why do you feel the need to silence that discussion?
I get that HN is a forum with its own rules and as such there is no automatic "right" to free speech, but is this really what flagging is for?
Flagging should be used for spam and other content which simply doesn't belong on a tech-related forum. Not for just removing stuff that you personally don't want to discuss.
Why don't you just ignore it and upvote the stuff you do want to participate in?
EDIT: this comment now appears as 'folded' when I refresh the page. Does this mean that it too has been flagged? That's pretty funny.