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by smallnamespace 2970 days ago
> But maybe I am just unaware. Can you provide some breakthroughs from Nvidia? Maybe I am just unaware?

You must be joking. I've only been pointing you repeatedly to Nvidia breakthroughs, with references and links provided, for the last 5 posts. Either you are blind, or willfully ignorant.

More self-driving accidents are only going to accelerate the pace. 3 years from now the government will be requiring auto makers to use the Drive Constellation [1] for safety testing.

Google has nothing remotely comparable, neither in published research nor in announced products.

We've gone through something like 8 replies and thousands of words, and you have written exactly one sentence addressing Nvidia's developments.

> The joules per inference is just way too expensive with Nvidia.

The Drive Xavier is basically a giant inferencing engine on a power-constrained platform [2]. It will be shipping in quantity in 2019. There is no equivalent Google product even announced.

> Now has over 98k stars on GitHub.

The fact that you are resorting to GitHub stars to make your argument is utterly laughable.

CUDA and cuDNN is the real enabler, which every single DL framework today (including TF) supports. People trust Nvidia far more than they trust Google to be an ecosystem partner.

> Unless Nvidia makes major advancement

Looked through your social media posts, half of them are pro-Google fanboism.

Nvidia's makes major advancements every 6 months across the entire deep learning stack. I keep pointing you towards what they're doing, hoping you have something interesting to say, but all you have to offer is the same tired Google cheerleading.

Look, I'm a long-time investor in both companies and like them both very much. But it's quite obvious you have zero interest in doing even a smidgen of research about Nvidia nor their technology.

Anyway, thanks for the replies, but I'm no longer interested in continuing this convo. You don't seem to know anything relevant at all about Nvidia, nor are you interested in learning more, despite all attempt to point you towards interesting things that they're doing, and why their approach is unique.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVlqggTiTzY

[2] https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/07/nvidia-xavier-soc-self-d...

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Just one Nvidia breakthrough? Just one algorithm? Capsule? No. GANs? No. Alphazero? No. What? Why no papers excepted at NIPS?

I doubt we will see deaths with Waymo any time soon. But yes with Tesla and the others. Google has 20k cars on order for 2020. Google does it without a safety driver and no one else close. Nvidia even gave up with the real road and now copying Google in creating a virtual world.

Does not seem like you even understand what TF is?

Ironically investor in Nvidia and Google. Google since their IPO. Well not in the IPO but open market at the time of the IPO. Google will do better than Nvidia long term but there will be scraps for Nvidia so wanted a position.

Plus you will get create price action with Nvidia because of hype but have to watch it and know when to get out. Think safe for a couple of years.

Problem is Nvidia does not do the entire stack. AI you MUST do the entire stack.

But the other problem is Google has a vision of creating the singularity. I do not think Nvidia has a similar vision.

I’ve just read this entire thread, and @smallnamespace has clearly won the debate.