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by ghazak 2973 days ago
Aren’t electric vehicles more at risk of the reverse, ie. a big decline in gasoline prices?

They’re more costly so users usually hope to make some of it back due to lower operating costs.

It’s not a huge risk though.

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The US has a radical cost difference in gasoline prices vs most of world.

Some reference per gallon prices right now: China $4.41, India $4.47, Japan $4.93, S.Korea $5.46, Spain $5.90, Germany $6.45, UK $6.59, Finland $6.83, France $6.99, Denmark $7.22, Italy $7.29, Netherlands $7.48

The US by contrast is at $2.99.

The US is now exporting immense amounts of oil and that is set to grow by a lot in the coming years. That hasn't occurred since the export law restrictions in 1975. The US is heading to 2 million plus barrels per day of exports this year. Chart:

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=M...

More likely the price of US gasoline will continue to drift slightly higher toward the rest of the world, as the exports bring the US closer to a normalization with everyone else (emphasis on closer). Those exports are seeking higher prices internationally, which will result in at least somewhat higher domestic prices (dramatically less domestic captive supply).

Further, the dollar is on a longer term trajectory down, due to the vast US budget deficits that are set to continue perpetually. That will push up the price of commodities priced in dollars, ie oil, which will also push up domestic gasoline prices as a consequence.

Tesla is going to sell a lot of cars as domestic gasoline prices gradually head toward $5 as a normal level (combination of less captive oil supply, and a perpetually eroding dollar value base).

> More likely the price of US gasoline will continue to drift slightly higher toward the rest of the world, as the exports bring the US closer to a normalization with everyone else (emphasis on closer). Those exports are seeking higher prices internationally, which will result in at least somewhat higher domestic prices (dramatically less domestic captive supply).

Crude oil prices are not that dissimilar, European Crude Oil trades only $5/barrel more than WTI (US Oklahoma) Oil. The main reason for the huge difference in prices is taxes. The US has hardly any tax on gasoline whereas in many European countries, taxes make up 60-80% of the fuel price (fuel taxes plus VAT). If you strip out taxes, gasoline in Europe isn't much more expensive than it is in the US. That's also why gasoline prices in the US react sharply in the US if crude oil prices fluctuate whereas in Europe, they usually don't move by more than 10-20%.